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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jul 10, 2009 18:51:43 GMT
The F&G Department that many think are wonderful and can do nothing wrong, are hatching plans to limit youth hunting. At a recent meeting, there's talk of putting an age limit on youth hunting. Not sure exactly what the age limit is be set at but from my source tells me it's age 12, like in PA.
Just wondering what people views are about this new brain storm of an idea from our great F&G wonderful leaders. I see it as another way to loose sales but more importantly, it can knock the kids interest away from hunting (because they can't hunt until their 12) and gives him a chance to get into other things that might not be good for them.
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Post by thunderchicken on Jul 11, 2009 4:04:01 GMT
Well, Tom, I think it sucks! Even though my kids ar beyond that age , I believe that you need to ge the kids involved early. I say this because the more you teach them at a young age the better the chance to they will grow with the sport. Not only that, I believe as kids get older, they tend to fall into that lazy mode!
Who came up with this bright idea? Some lawmaker that doesnt have kids that want to hunt or they feel their kids arent ready yet at younger ages?
Man, who is in charge in that agency? Ticks me off to no end when they come up with crap like this! Next thing you know they will ban hunting on Sundays!
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jul 11, 2009 4:29:57 GMT
Just so you know, this is still in the discussion stage and it's coming from F&G, not state lawmakers. The people of the state spoke and wanted F&G stay the way it is. They wanted the "so called" hunter elected commissioner to make decisions and here he is getting ready to do just that.
Who ever decided to come up with idea, probably has a kid that's 12 or older now. Their thinking is if they make an age limit, it would greatly increase their kids chances out in the woods by knocked out the kids under the age limit.
It's sad because it will probably happen and all the people who's kids are over the age limit they decide, will happy pigs in $#i% saying, "it's a great idea! We hate change in this state but this time around I'm all for it". Have I ever mentioned I hate our F&G Department? Well I do!
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Post by regnar on Jul 11, 2009 21:58:35 GMT
Tom,
Where did you hear this from? I searched but found nothing.
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jul 11, 2009 22:29:05 GMT
Again, this is still only in a discussion stage. Give Jim a call at the shop and he'll filling you on more details. He's dad is on some F&G committee so I belive he goes to a few meeting with him but don't quote me on that. I'm not sure all the details of how or where he heard it but if he told me it was brought up and discussed by the F&G Department.
He asked me to post it to get peoples opinions probably to take back to the next meeting.
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Post by regnar on Jul 11, 2009 23:06:40 GMT
IT SUCKS. That my opinion and feel free to quote me.
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Post by regnar on Jul 13, 2009 2:43:21 GMT
I spoke with a couple of people today about this subject, one being a Commissioner. Both people said that their is nothing happening that they know about and the commissioner said he has heard nothing in the back ground about it. He did say the he would vote against it with 100% certainty.
I hope that this is true as there are much more important thing for them to be doing.
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Post by soccerref on Jul 13, 2009 12:22:33 GMT
Without knowing what, if any, reason there is behind it, I agree with Regnar, this sucks.
If the kids are showing interest we should do everything we can to encourage that rather than make them wait where they may lose interest to something else.
All that said, I'd like to hear the "why" behind this, if it exists. One thing I have heard here and there is that some feel "young" kids aren't really doing the hunting and the adult is using this as an extra tag. If that's the case, it is a vast minority of people and there are already rules in place to penalize it.
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jul 13, 2009 13:19:04 GMT
Without knowing what, if any, reason there is behind it, I agree with Regnar, this sucks. If the kids are showing interest we should do everything we can to encourage that rather than make them wait where they may lose interest to something else. All that said, I'd like to hear the "why" behind this, if it exists. One thing I have heard here and there is that some feel "young" kids aren't really doing the hunting and the adult is using this as an extra tag. If that's the case, it is a vast minority of people and there are already rules in place to penalize it. I agree 100% and as far as your last part of your post, I saw that happen during the turkey season up in Hillsboro a few years back when the youth turkey first started. I called a gobbler all the way across an open posted field edge only to hear a shot ring off several 100 yards away from me. A guy stood up (with the gun) and ran out to the bird followed by a young hunter. The only problem with this situation was that the young hunter was about 50 yards down the field edge closer to me. The guy and kid (turned out it was his daughter) did have permission to hunt the farm so at least they weren't breaking other laws. I was hunting with a guy from Predator Outdoors out of Maine and we were trying to film him son who was 6 years old. After it happened we were hoping it was on film but the camera guy didn't film every step of the turkey coming in.
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Post by regnar on Jul 14, 2009 1:10:39 GMT
I spoke with another person today and he said that as far as he knows there is noting going on like this or is there anything in the works. He did say it may be possible that this could be about youth pheasant hunting and that that does not include and age limit but would require hunter education.
If that is the case I can see their though process but I don not agree with it. The kids still will be under the supervision of an adult and I would rather have my boys go to hunter ed when they are older so they can retain more of the book information. The practical stuff will be second nature to them by that time.
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jul 17, 2009 15:58:40 GMT
Spoke with Jim and it was only for pheasant hunting and he's heard nothing more about it so far. That was my miss understanding when we were talking and I apologize but it still doesn't change my opinion in the matter of setting an age limit. If they got an age limit on just pheasant hunting what would be next? Deer or turkey hunting? It is coming from F&G and he doesn’t know the reason behind it. My thoughts, maybe it's because pheasant hunting is mostly confined to where the F&G stock them. In a few of the places I've hunted one year, it was field edge to field edge of guys hunting them. That’s my number one reason for never buying my pheasant license again.
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