17hmr on yotes?

[regnar]

I am looking to get something I can shoot yotes with in shotgun only towns. How does the 17 hmr work on them? HAs anyone shot one with that round? IS there anything else I should look at?

Thanks

[browning204]

Regnar, There is no such law that states that coyotes can be hunted with only rimfire or shotgun in ANY town in NH.

Those laws only apply toward Deer hunting and Night hunting for coyotes.

I at one time thought the same thing but after talking with F&G, they explained to me that coyotes can be hunted with any fire arm anywhere in the state.

Well, until stupid people start shooting people!

Here is the guys E-mail if you want to check for yourself

[e-mail]

p.s. a 17HMR 20 grain hollow point and a well placed shot under 100 yards will kill a coyote. It will run most times!

[regnar]

I thought. I called F&G to check and talked to cpt archabault (SP) He said that I had to follow the rules of the town and I asked him show me the RSA FOR IT. He pointed me to page 19 of the orange book.

I Tried to tell him that it was for night hunting but we started to get into a pissing match. I asked him to show me the RSA again and he said that they went by that book. I might give the SGT an email.

Thanks

[browning204]

Correct, if a town has a special rule then you must follow the rule.
But if the town does not, you can use any firearm for coyote anywhere in the state.

[regnar]

Thanks for the tip. The lt responded with the same answere you gave me.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Anyone got a suggestion on a .204 that is a decent shooter at a decent price?

[browning204]

well, my browning is wicked accurate with the Hornady 32 grain v-max bullets, I paid $550 for it brand new.

I have heard great things about the savage in .204. I know a couple of people out in colorado that use the savage in .204 and consistantly shoot them @ 200 yards and more with out problems or losing coyotes.

I almost bought a savage but the one that caught my eye weighed in at 10 pounds. So I opted for a lighter gun.

I have read great things about the 39 grain bullets, great performance without destroying fur. As far as my browning, it likes hornady 32 grains best then hornady 40 grainers. Remington and federal don't perform as well as the hornady on paper as far as I have seen.

I think that you will be amazed by the round, super fast and super flat shooting without the over kill such as a 22/250. It quickly became my favorite round to shoot.

[regnar]

kittery has a browning a bolt on sale for about 4 bills. I may go put it on lawaway tommorow.

Thanks

[browning204]

mine is the A-bolt hunter, I like it alot. I have a Maine vue optics 3x9x40 that I got from wildlife taxidermy for around $110.

let us know how you make out.

[browning204]

the .204 at 1 inch high @ 100 yards id dead on at 300 yards

[regnar]

I have been looking at guns all night. Trying to decide between the 204 and a 223. I think the 204 will be more acurate but the 223 is still very acurate and I think ammo will be cheaper to run through it.

I dont know!!!!! To many choices! I had an eaiser time picking our kids names than I do deciding on what gun I want!!

If the browning a bolt (it is a hunter) is still there I think I will get it. IF not I will look at the ruger of the savage. I dont think I need a heavy barreled gun and I have a M77 in 223 and was able to get 3" inch groups at 300 yars with factory federal ammo. Which ever I can get a better deal on I will go with. This is a yote gun not a bench rest gun.

[browning204]

now I hear you about the ammo, but let me say this. I shot a coyote at 40 yards TWICE with a .223 55 grain softpoints and never found it. Blood everywhere but no coyote. Both were solid hits (I have a witness)

with .223 you will be hard pressed to find anything other than 55 grain on the shelf locally and the stuff you can order such as Black hills will be more expensive, not as much as .204 but still more expensive.

the .204, same issue, the country is still being saturated with ammo so when I buy it, I get a bunch and you will find pretty much 32 or 40 grain only. But the speed and the flat shooting accuracy makes it worth it for me.

just some #'s from the shooters bible

.223 hornady 55 grain V-max

velocity, fps=@100 yards 3240 & 1282 ft/lbs
@200 yards 2859 & 998 ft/lbs

.204 ruger Hornady 32 grain V-max

velocity, fps @100 yards 4225 &1268 ft/lbs
@200 yards 3632 & 937 ft/lbs

Both rounds are very similar but the .204 actually fares better out at 300-400 yards. But remember, the .223 is 55 grains and the .204 is 32 grains, the lighter .204 bullet performs as good as the heavier .223.

[regnar]

I will most likely end up witht he 204, GUess I will have to get into reloading again

[b4rifle]

Browning, don't be too hard on the little 223. You need to understand that it has stood the test of time, there is more data and options available for it than any other cartridge under 30 cal. It was designed for a multipurpose use, but you will find it popular with target shooters. Therefor you find general practice ammo more readily available. In reality there are more bullet styles than could be listed here.

In comparison the 204 has few options and is so new that there is not much of what I would call proven data. It is becoming very popular and adapting well, but who knows it could be gone tomorrow. However the 223 will be here for many generations down the road.

Don't get me wrong. I very much like the 204. I think it is one of the most important advancements in modern rifles. If I needed a new rifle I would probably buy one. What I am trying to say is don't let one bad experience smear your opinion.

Regnar, I think if you decide to go with the 204 you will be very happy. I am a big fan of the savage rifle. They are no B.S. shooters. Not pretty but they get the job done and do it well. I read an article in Predator X-treme about savages new predator hunter rifle. I think if I see one, I may have to buy one.

Here is a link to the story:
www.predatorxtreme.com/articles.asp?ArticleID=80

[browning204]

B4Rifle: I am not letting that one instance smear my opinion, it wouldn't be fair because I Have yet to Kill a coyote with the .204 round. But I am baseing what I wrote on articles I have read and from talking with people via forums and E-mail that have taken coyotes with the .204 and lots of other rounds, They all say the same thing, pin sized enterance and hardly ever an exit with everything in between turning into tomato soup.

Sure there are tons of happy customers of the .223, I like to shoot it also and I will continue to shoot it at coyotes while hunting thick stuff. But I was just trying to say to regnar that if he wants a dedicated coyote round and wants something that is new and fun to shoot, then look closely at the .204. I really don't think that he would be unhappy with the round based on the area that we hunt.