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Post by bushman on Feb 23, 2010 19:20:43 GMT
Hi,
I am new to the forum and also new to Coyote hunting. It's something my son and I would like to have a go at but need a couple pointers to get us started. I have a small electronic call and mouth calls. I live near Pawtuckaway State Park in Nottingham, but only hear coyotes calling every now and again. I see some sign around.
The 2 key questions I have are 1) is early morning or late evening better, or does it really matter? 2) What's the best environment to setup in SE NH - farm fields, logging roads, power lines, hardwoods?
I know I just need to get out and try but want to be a little educated first :-)
Thanks
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Post by bushman on Feb 23, 2010 23:27:49 GMT
Thanks Browning This is great input. I have a Hunters Specialties - Predator Two. It has a little hand remote that allows you get about 25 feet from the speaker. It has the following sounds : Cottontail Howls Coyote Pups Fawn Jackrabbit Appreciate this help :-) Attachments:
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Post by highwaystar on Feb 23, 2010 23:36:49 GMT
bushman Welcome to NHW&Ws Coyote hunting. As you said just need to get out there. Locating is the key. Take a night and a map and try your hunting area. When you get a responce log it down and move on. Like Browning204 said If you do, stop and get out as sneeky as you can. I then take that info and go to Google Earth and make a plan from there. Look for funnels ,edges, fields, swamps and fine where you can pinch them into a ambush. Watch the wind and plan your best place to set up. But, all that can change. Last week we called in 5 to come out in a field. I have had them come in with the wind at their back. You just don't know what is going to happen. The sounds you play will also dictate the out come. The 5 we called in where with coyote sounds. We pissed those dogs off and they came in to kick butt. No care that it was in the middle of a field. Now does that mean you play coyote sounds to get them into a field and play distress in the woods. Got me. It is a feel that one gets as we learn the prey we are hunting. I now have a feel for a setup. I know it sounds crazy but all the info you have learned from the hunts piles up in your head and instinct takes over. Any way, I'm in Barrington just down the road from you and if you want to hookup and go on a hunt PM me. Also Pm me if you want any help or info on sounds or setups. More then glad to put my 2 cents into the pot. Lookup my past posts and my hunting partners as well, brodeur272 Get in the woods. Schools open!!!! Highwaystar
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Post by bushman on Feb 24, 2010 3:55:45 GMT
Guys - thank you so much for this feedback. I have been struggling to get this kind of help for a while now. I had a feeling it was a little more effort than they make it look on TV - and I was right. That said, I am fired up about giving it a go now. I will stick to the equipment I have now, and focus on the animals. I think I am all set with weapons too (at least my wife says I have enough). 22, 17HMR and 223 Thanks for the offers, I will PM you shortly. I am going to start driving around and calling to see what I can find in the area. I have a lot of homework to do now. Thanks again
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Post by bushman on Feb 24, 2010 12:16:39 GMT
That was going to be a follow up question - I had heard and read the 17HMR was a little light for yotes. I have found that the bullet fragments terribly, even in squirrels, and so looses the hydrostatic shock value of a good mushrooming bullet. I did read they make a "gamepoint" round which is supposed to be better. I don't want to take any chances though, so will stick with the 223.
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Post by bushman on Feb 24, 2010 14:40:07 GMT
I hear you.
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Post by highwaystar on Feb 25, 2010 3:40:05 GMT
<---Highwaystar, back me up on this!!! Coyote vocals are in every stand that we take part in. Distress sounds are the less played. Well, I will play coyote distress stuff. If you want to know about coyotes I have a DVD from Bill Martz at www.wildlifetech.com/pages/home.htm and you are welcome to borrow it. It is by far the best. Wildlife Technologies is where I bought my Caller. It to is by far the best. Would be glad to prove it to you. .223 Yes that is what I use. I shoot a 60 grn V-Max handloaded. Highwaystar
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Post by cmull on Mar 2, 2010 2:09:06 GMT
Hi guys, this is some fantastic and useful information: Like Bushman I am new to Coyote hunting and have only had luck sitting in a tree stand during deer season. I'm on the other side of the State in the Hinsdale/Keene area and have tried some sets late this fall and in January without any luck. I've watched every DVD I can get my hands on and read every magazine I can find. The amount of calling information is overwhelming. There seem to be decent numbers of coyotes around and I have exchanged howls with them just goofing around from my back porch.
So far I have limited my calling to only distress sounds and sequences. Can you guys recommend a place to go to really learn coyote vocalizations and how to put them together to be played during a set. So far the rabbit distress has only earned me a neighborhood dog that got the heart going but really liked to sniff my E caller before I yelled and ran him off.
Also, do you use any type of decoy or scent.
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Post by highwaystar on Mar 2, 2010 23:24:04 GMT
cmull Welcome to NHW&W
List your coyote sounds that you have on your caller and we can put something togeather for you to try.
Highwaystar
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Post by cmull on Mar 3, 2010 0:46:01 GMT
Thanks A bunch for the offer. I have a Digital Preymaster and bought a few extra chips. After looking at the Wildlife Technologies website I feel under gunned. Anyway what I have for Coyote vocalizations are : Coyote Locater Coyote pup distress Canine Pups
For distress I have: Rodent distress Squealing Bird meadowlark kid goat distress whitetail fawn distress pleading chicken high pitched cottontail Vittles a'la Jackrabbit Grown Cottontail
They are all found on Coyote #2, #3 and Bobcat #1
I am going off the deep end. I found the Predator Talk podcasts, downloaded them to my ipod and listened to about 6 hours of it today.
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Post by highwaystar on Mar 3, 2010 1:43:42 GMT
Coyote Locater Coyote pup distress Canine Pups
For distress I have: Rodent distress Squealing Bird meadowlark kid goat distress whitetail fawn distress pleading chicken high pitched cottontail Vittles a'la Jackrabbit Grown Cottontail
For a dusk hunt I would try Coyote Locater full volume for 2 min then go to Canine Pups for 30 sec then to Coyote pup distress and let it play for the rest of the stand. Coyote sounds I play full volume and I play sounds the whole stand no breaks in the sounds.
Morning hunt Rodent distress 1/4 volume for 2 min. Squealing Bird 1/2 volume for 2 min. Canine Pups Full volume 30 sec. Grown Cottontail 3/4 volume for 2 min. Coyote pup distress full volume rest of the stand
On stand for 15 min of sounds and then sit still for 10 min. after the sounds have stopped. Sit as still as you can and look hard.
Canine Pups 30 sec full volume high pitched cottontail 3/4 volume 2 min. Canine Pups 30 sec full volume Grown Cottontail 3/4 volume 2 min. Canine Pups 30 sec full volume Coyote pup distress full volume rest of stand.
If you can try to locate at night and if you get a responce see if you can get there in the morning and set up a stand. Locating is your best scouting tool.
Highwaystar
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Post by cmull on Mar 3, 2010 3:02:25 GMT
Thanks Guys. I printed out the sequence and plan on trying it Friday morning. I appreciate the information and your willingness to share it.
Hywystr, At what range do you do you recommend zeroing your AR. The area that I hunt is pretty dense. I dont see the opportunity to have a shot over 100 yards, if that.
Thanks Again guys. You'll be sure to hear from me if I get any visitors.
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Mar 3, 2010 18:29:53 GMT
Coyote Locater Coyote pup distress Canine Pups For distress I have: Rodent distress Squealing Bird meadowlark kid goat distress whitetail fawn distress pleading chicken high pitched cottontail Vittles a'la Jackrabbit Grown Cottontail For a dusk hunt I would try Coyote Locater full volume for 2 min then go to Canine Pups for 30 sec then to Coyote pup distress and let it play for the rest of the stand. Coyote sounds I play full volume and I play sounds the whole stand no breaks in the sounds. Morning hunt Rodent distress 1/4 volume for 2 min. Squealing Bird 1/2 volume for 2 min. Canine Pups Full volume 30 sec. Grown Cottontail 3/4 volume for 2 min. Coyote pup distress full volume rest of the stand On stand for 15 min of sounds and then sit still for 10 min. after the sounds have stopped. Sit as still as you can and look hard. Canine Pups 30 sec full volume high pitched cottontail 3/4 volume 2 min. Canine Pups 30 sec full volume Grown Cottontail 3/4 volume 2 min. Canine Pups 30 sec full volume Coyote pup distress full volume rest of stand. If you can try to locate at night and if you get a responce see if you can get there in the morning and set up a stand. Locating is your best scouting tool. Highwaystar That's some awesome information there Highwaystar Don't watch videos, they are shot behind locked gates in Predator rich places. Also Don't read mags, they are not written by hunters in the North east, Never mind NH. You forgot to add that ONLY a e-caller made in Manchester New Hampshire will work ;D
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Mar 3, 2010 22:08:43 GMT
No browning…I’m not laughing or busting on highwaystar choice of e-caller. I’m laughing & busting at the fact you didn’t express your strong opinion how any caller but the WT or his sounds is junk and couldn’t call in anything
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Post by highwaystar on Mar 4, 2010 2:11:54 GMT
Hywystr, At what range do you do you recommend zeroing your AR.
Mine is set at 100yds.
I dont see the opportunity to have a shot over 100 yards, if that.
True.
You could setup for long shots but, Man a coyote right in your face is something!!! I like close shots. Coyotes are some hard to put down and can run a long way with lead in them.
Highwaystar
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