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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Feb 19, 2009 1:58:33 GMT
OK, here’s an awesome clip of just what Hevi-shot can do. Bewared….the turkeys you're about to see, were hurt in the making of this clip. That last gobbler is exactly what my VT limb hanger did when I thumped him last spring
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thunderchicken
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Post by thunderchicken on Feb 19, 2009 2:30:44 GMT
wow, that is devastating! Is that what you use,tom? I have been shooting the winchester turkey loads and they seem to work well, but that was unbelievable!
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Feb 19, 2009 3:05:20 GMT
With my Nitro loads yes but not with my Winchecter loads. Those are just Extended Range. I believe I'll be dropping some $$ to test the Hevi-Shot again
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Post by regnar on Feb 19, 2009 13:51:15 GMT
I have been using Hevi-Shot since it was first introduced for waterfowl hunting. It was devastating back then and the loads have gotten even better since. It patterns differently than lead in my shotguns. I get tighter patterns with it. And based of the animals I have shot I do think it gets better penetration than lead. Expensive yes but well worth it in my opinion.
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Post by thunderchicken on Feb 19, 2009 21:23:12 GMT
I am not using the extended range just the high velocity turkey loads 3 inch #6s and they pattern nicely out to 30 yards with the Mossberg.
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Post by nastygunz on Feb 19, 2009 22:04:46 GMT
I aint neva had a bird so fer away a lead pellet wouldnt do the deed...aint that the point to lure em in tight?.....just my opinion....last springs bird was about 5 yards....Im just a cheap bastid I guess
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Post by nastygunz on Feb 19, 2009 22:05:39 GMT
How many yards away was the bird in the video?
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Post by nastygunz on Feb 19, 2009 22:10:59 GMT
I use Fiocchi 3 1/2 with 2 3/8 oz of #5.
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Post by regnar on Feb 20, 2009 12:48:53 GMT
Gunz,
If ya lure em in tight, why and the heck would you want to shoot a 3 1/2 shell??
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thunderchicken
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Post by thunderchicken on Feb 20, 2009 21:03:08 GMT
good point!
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Post by nastygunz on Feb 21, 2009 0:24:46 GMT
Simple enough........they were on sale for 2.99 a box from Cabelas so I bought 10 boxes....and I was set for turkey shells for about 15 more years....savvy consumer what?...what Id really like to do is take one with my .410 pistol....wish it was a legal caliber to use.....so dont get hepped up I aint crankin on hevi shotters....just stating my preference and experience ....I got a buddy in VT who started hunting turkeys there right from the beginning and he still just uses 2 3/4 #6 and he been shooting alot of turkeys for a long time....I personally think like many areas of hunting and fishing its a pretty basic hunt...and hunters/fishermen are driven and manipulated by marketing "sharks" to buy the new bow....new gun....best scent....hottest shotgun shell, etc........Regnar, I will ask you, if I am correct, you have taken turkeys with a bow?...which entails "luring em in tight"...you dont do the same with a shotgun?....having taken birds with both....if you can get one with a bow you dont need hevi-shot you could use a low brass 2 3/4 shell and do the deed...ok ill shut up now, points to ponder
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Post by nastygunz on Feb 21, 2009 0:34:12 GMT
p.s. and to be VERY CLEAR im not saying you guys do, but those long shots SOME people take result in what I dont like seeing EVERY year....birds hopping across fields on one leg.....trailing broken wings, etc.....bad for the birds and bad for the image of hunters....another reason I shoot em tight.
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Post by regnar on Feb 21, 2009 13:50:35 GMT
Nasty,
I probably shoot birds with my bow further than a lot of people shoot them with a gun. Two years ago a shot my bird at just under 40 yards if I remember right (on the range finder). I have shot them further than that with my shot gun as well. I dont wait to get any animal in close just to get them in close. I take the first good shot that is presented to me if it is within my effective range.
That is the reason for my response to the hevi shot video. The stuff works. It is denser than lead and it is harder than lead. Harder means less deformation than lead which results in better patterning and better Penetration. Being more dense means that you can use a smaller pellet size than lead and several pellet sizes than steel and still have the same down range energy plus the added benefit of having more pellets in your pattern. Another advantage that I have found is that I have consistently produced better patterns the smaller the shot size.
Will lead work? Always did and always will. But I think Hevi is better. Besides if you use all hevi you dont have to worry about a lead shell getting mixed in when going waterfowl hunting!!
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Post by nastygunz on Mar 18, 2009 3:08:07 GMT
WTH!?! -------- Hevi-Shot suffers from blow-hard marketing syndrome, in large measure. Although Hevi-Shot gained its following from its "heavier than lead" moniker, most of the current Hevi-Shot offerings are not only not heavier than lead, they are not even similar to the density of lead. This includes Hevi-Steel, Hevi-Shot Duck, and the rounds tested here: "Classic Doubles."
Although Hevi-Shot "Classic Doubles" are ad-bragged as "26% denser than steel," they seem to go to great lengths to avoid any comparisons with lead. I don't believe it is any accident or happenstance. As it turns out, Hevi-Shot Classic Doubles isn't all that heavy after all. It runs 9.7 g /cc as opposed to the 11.35 g / cc of lead-- making it about 15% lighter than lead (the same is true for Hevi-Shot Duck). Along the Hevi-hyperbole is the "belted sphere for maximum pellet mass" ignoring the basics that if maximum or similar mass compared to lead was the object, it would need to be a denser material than it is. The Hevi-hype also claims it to be "denser than bismuth." Well, a little fact-checking shows bismuth at 9.6 g/ cc, virtually the same as Hevi-Shot Classic Doubles-certainly nothing to brag about.
Kent Tungsten-Matrix, on the other hand, is heavier than steel, heavier than Hevi-Steel, heavier than Hevi-Shot Duck, heavier than Hevi-Shot Classic Doubles, and heavier than bismuth as well. It is effectively very close to lead at 10.6 g / cc, and both patterns and kills like lead-- a very good thing. ------------------------------------ Randy Wakeman Senior Editor, Guns and Shooting Online Technical Editor, Muzzleloading: SavageShooters.net 12362 S. Oxford Lane Plainfield, Illinois 60585-8596 USA
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Post by nastygunz on Mar 18, 2009 3:29:02 GMT
10 yards?.....less?....I COULD TAKE THAT BIRD WITH MY .410 PISTOL !........ How many yards away was the bird in the video?
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