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Post by ecgreen on Jan 24, 2012 12:25:08 GMT
Here is one to get everyone in an uproar...what do you think about hunting coyotes through the breeding and rearing season? I personally don't like the idea of leaving any young animal without parents, its no way for any animal to go IMHO. Especially since hunting has so little impact on numbers, why not at least let them get the pups up an running until dispersal in the fall, then start hunting them again.
Thoughts?
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Post by regnar on Jan 24, 2012 12:55:51 GMT
I could care less to be honest. They are vicious predators that are unchecked if they continue to be so I believe they will have a major impact on ALL our game animals in NH as well as hitting the pets in our back yard much harder than they already do (you dont think that all the posters advertising a reward for missing fluffy means they are really missing do ya!!!).
Hunting does not have a huge impact on them but it does have one. I think a few coyote pools through the winter spring and summer could bring more interest into hunting them. I usually get a few every year but last year I got none. I hope to more than make up for that this year.
As far as leaving the young, why not shoot them as well if they present a shot? All they are are future deer killers.
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jan 24, 2012 14:20:10 GMT
My Firestorm caller will be here next week so I can help and try to reduce the numbers in my area. Pups or adults If I'm out calling and see a coyote with pups come in, I hope like hell she drops in her tracks. That way maybe the pups with stick around wondering what happened to mommy long enough for me to center my crosshairs on them too. Kill em all While out whistle pig hunting in MD one morning and I came across a litter of 4 red fox playing in and around a huge brush pile of logs. I set up and picked those little rabbit eating son of #$%*@# off one by one with a 22mag. I gathered them up and left for the day. I returned in the evening and used the Johnny Steward 1/4 ton electric caller with a pup distress tape (yeah, I said tape...it's all they had back in the those days ) to see if mommy would come in and it sure didn’t take but a few seconds for her to get dropped as well
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Post by ecgreen on Jan 24, 2012 15:52:15 GMT
As far as leaving the young, why not shoot them as well if they present a shot? All they are are future deer killers. I am fine with shooting the young. What I take objection with is leaving them without parents, and having them die a slow death as a result. I guess after going toe-to-toe trapping them I have gained a respect for them and I would like to see their numbers be reduced in a more honorable way. They are still one of God's creatures. If we are not going to be able to reduce their numbers by hunting them when they have pups, then why do it? The way to control the numbers in my opinion is to promote trapping (and hunting), in a reasonable season, as a renewable resource. On top of this, domestic dog laws need to be enforced to do this effectively. I know I could catch 50 to 100 coyotes every year if I didn't have to worry about dogs. OK, let me have it coyote haters...I know, I am a coyote lovin treehugger, right? ;D ;D
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Post by mjflores on Jan 24, 2012 16:24:18 GMT
No you're not...same here. I don't shoot yotes during the spring either, let them raise their young...it's the right thing to do. Half of the litter never sees a year old so we can afford them this time to grow and be pups. They're not evil, they're just coyotes.
I don't shoot gray fox either, they're special to me. I befriended one years ago or I should say it befriended me. I caught that little fox watching me outside one day and within few days it would come lay right next to me while I sat in a chair in the back yard. I dont think I could have pet her but maybe...she felt comfortable laying 4 feet or so away either sleeping or staring at me. Mid summer that year it started bringing her pups to the house and they played all over that yard. For some reason she liked me, I dont know why but I'm glad for it. They're so friendly and I've heard of them befriending other humans too. I cant see the sense in killing them either.
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Post by regnar on Jan 24, 2012 20:35:52 GMT
If your right mike and only half the litter survives, if I can shoot a mother than maybe the other half wont make it either.
Dont get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for them. They are surely a worth opponent. But I will kill EVERY one at ANY time of the year I can. The less of them their are the better off our deer herd will be. If every deer hunter could kill one coyote a year I think that we would start having an impact.
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jan 24, 2012 20:49:24 GMT
OK, let me have it coyote haters...I know, I am a coyote lovin treehugger, right? ;D ;D Dam you ec!! ;D ;D Ditto regnar I look at it this way, if their old enough to be running around with mommy and coming in my calls while out hunting them, they are fair game. Animals survival instincts are incredible. I’m normally too busy scouting or hunting turkeys to go out and target coyotes in the spring so they are safe from me. Well safe as long as they stay out of sight from me. This female probably thought she was going to have a nice turkey dinner (or for her pups) but the lead on her mind made her the main course on the food chain. Josey Wales said, "Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms." Here's a link to the post from that day…. nhwoodswaters.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=turkey&action=display&thread=1851
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Post by ecgreen on Jan 26, 2012 15:38:46 GMT
Last night I had a pack of yotes howling under my bedroom window, I kid you not. That is brassy beyond anything I ever experienced. Once my dog barked they took off.
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Post by Scout on Jan 26, 2012 19:44:54 GMT
Let’s not portray ourselves as killers, but as sportsman. There are lots of predators out there that contribute to taking of turkeys and deer, coyotes take all the heat for it, because of discussions like this. I agree that we need proper balance in nature to have a healthy population of wildlife, but the mindset of killing every coyote is wrong. Wouldn’t we have to do the same for bobcat, fox, fisher, bear, owls, raccoons ect…. Presently, I have two dozen K-9 sets out and have been trapping them for two months. I have five trail cameras out watching various pinch points, about every three weeks they run the area. I’m in an area that I have been told has high coyote numbers, from my data, I think they are well balanced. Really, if any of you feel that your area has an over abundance of coyotes let me know. I will gladly come trap them. I will travel just about anywhere within reason. I will not divulge your locations, or use your locations for any other purpose other than help you get them under control. I would rather do this than to have them killed and left to rot. I surely don’t know why that coyote attacked that girl, I can assure you that coyotes are more afraid of you, then you of them. They avoid humans confrontation at all cost. As a trapper just the scent we leave at a set is enough to keep them from committing. Want to do a little experiment, pick up a rod kill deer and place it in one of your areas. Put your trail camera on it to see how long it takes a coyote to go near it. You want to increase our deer herd and turkey populations we need to first stop shooting does, stop a three month season, and a month long rifle season, stop the fall gun season for turkeys, oppose the two bird limit in the spring, until we are sure the flocks and herds can sustain this type of harvest. I’m sorry if I sound like I’m preaching, but I respect and admire the coyote and all wild animals. I feel we should talk intelligently about our wildlife, not portray ourselves as blood thirsty killers. Sincerely! Mike Silver Wildlife Nuisance Control Operator II/with snaring 603-913-9086
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Post by regnar on Jan 26, 2012 20:50:11 GMT
Mike,
I will take you up on that. I have one farm that I know you can get permission on and two that I am very confident. I would love to get out and learn a bit about it.
Let me know what you need.
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Post by nastygunz on Feb 26, 2012 2:23:20 GMT
Possibly rabid coyote attacks NH teen in Hopkinton.
February 23, 2012|AP Political Writer
New Hampshire officials say a teenager walking his dog in Hopkinton was attacked by a coyote and is receiving a course of rabies shots as a precaution.
A Fish and Game wildlife biologist called the Wednesday attack on a human “highly unusual’’ and said they believe the coyote is rabid because of its uncharacteristically aggressive behavior.
Officials believe the same coyote attacked a dog in Hopkinton earlier in the week. The dog survived, but required veterinary care.
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Feb 27, 2012 18:04:52 GMT
I’ve been over there with the FoxPro several time without any kind of responce. Sometime I just park and listen for activity and still nada I guess the sound I need on my caller is a kid walking a dog or maybe a dog collar jingling sound
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Post by nastygunz on Feb 28, 2012 3:18:00 GMT
Good one ")
" or maybe a dog collar jingling sound"
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