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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jan 6, 2012 15:20:15 GMT
Here are links to the bills the committee will be holding hearings on next Thursday, January 12, starting at 10:00 in room 307 of the Legislative Office Building in Concord. Just in case there is anyone who is interested in checking into what F&G is up to and let the State Reps hear someone else’s side instead of just F&G’s version of things Now I agree and disagree but God forbid with I say which ones I’d rather not hear how bad I am or how my opinion doesn't fair with others ;D
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Post by ecgreen on Jan 6, 2012 16:01:07 GMT
First 2 links dont work
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jan 6, 2012 17:47:45 GMT
Sorry ec...I tried a group URL link It's fixed now
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jan 18, 2012 18:17:07 GMT
Here's some more I'm sure that the last would put smile on all the haters about leasing hunting property. I doubt it will fly seeing it would be infringing on landowners property rights.
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Post by nhhunter on Jan 18, 2012 23:21:35 GMT
I like the premiss of the bill, but it is way to vague to enforce. It doesn't state "for profit or money" therefore if a hunter is able to talk himself into a piece of land already posted, he or she should not be found guilty of any violation for having people skills.
One thing the Rep. should have also taken into consideration is that the NHF&G does a lottery to trap state land, therefore not allowing all that want to trap said land to be able to if they are not the one to have thier name chosen in the lottery.
That bill will be killed in a hurry. I have talked to this Rep. before and his thoughts are in concern for the future of hunting, fishing and trapping for all. That I applaud. Just not the way he is going about it.
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jan 19, 2012 0:00:20 GMT
Well even if his thoughts and for the future of hunting & fishing, taking the rights or infringing on landowners rights to use or manage their property that they pay taxes on is not right. The EPA has rules and laws that regulate what happens on property because it’s an environmental issue. These bozos are trying to regulate landowner’s rights on a “recreational” issue and why I feel it will be shot down Anyways, I’ll be heading to Concord Wednesday at 2 o’clock to listen to this in on this meeting. Maybe I’ll ask the sponsors before it starts if they would care to supplement a yearly check to any landowner that might be using a lease to help with property taxes? Or how about a landowner who’s out of state but allows a hunter(s) on their posted land to help keep an eye on things. I wonder if any of them (sponsors) would like to take the time to keep an eye on the property or even work maintenance on the property for the landowner for free?
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Post by regnar on Jan 19, 2012 0:06:03 GMT
I just cant believe anyone would support something that takes rights away from all of us. I know that we disagree on posting of property nhhunter but I am shocked you think the premiss of the bill is ok.
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Post by nhhunter on Jan 19, 2012 0:37:42 GMT
I just cant believe anyone would support something that takes rights away from all of us. I know that we disagree on posting of property nhhunter but I am shocked you think the premiss of the bill is ok. I thought about this some more. I hate the thoughts of leases......that's no secret. I also hate someone telling people what they can and can not do on thier land. One thing to remember though, landowners do not own the wildlife that may venture through thier property. We all pay to protect and research the animals through the cost of a hunting license. Why should someone have exclusive rights to hunt the animals that others are paying for also? It's a slippery slope without a doubt. As for the EPA things I agree, but towns have been telling people for a long time now what they have to do to have a home to code, when and where you can build a deck or shed. I agree that more gov't is not the answer. It's too bad that hunters just can't police themselves though. It's pretty obvious that my posts have caused some hard feelings, and that wasn't my intensions. Everyone is entitled to thier opinions, and I think it's obvious that if you have those opinions that a person thinks thiers is the "right" one. Unforunatly these things always lead to hurt feelings or false interpitations (sp) of a person and what and who they are. These topics I think are better discussed over that conac and a cigar . Or in my case a heiniken and a dip of copenhagen. I got to say though on this bill, I'm more likely to agree with you guys the more I think about it.
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Post by nhhunter on Jan 19, 2012 0:46:45 GMT
On a side note, one of the things that have been thought about is the fact that the NHF&G Dept. is running Operation landshare. Some of the proceeds of the five auctioned off moose permits are what is being used to fund this program. I think this bill was more designed towards guides that are trying to limit access to other hunters, which in the guides creed it clearly states that all guides will do what they can to continue access and hunting oppurtunities for all. That's paraphrased because I'm too lazy to post up the link. The behavior of some guides is the reason why I have guided my last hunting or fishing trip. I'd rather not have any connection to that. The fact that only a 120 grown men can not come to an agreement on how to distribute bear tags, is just a shame. Or how another 120 guides are not smart enough to protect a resource like the salmon of N.H, but worry more about the revenue. That's a topic for a different day.
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Jan 19, 2012 14:37:31 GMT
No hurt feelings here nhhunter...like you said, we are all entitled to our own opinions I'm not a landowner but if I was, the last thing I want is someone telling me what I can or can't do on my land for recreation just to keep it fair to everyone. Those that work hard for their money to either buy land or find a landowner willing to lease their property shouldn't be punished because other don't or because they spend their money in other ways. I'm sure people that own vacation property up north would be outraged if they learned that had to share their cabin with those that do have one This bill in a sense is no different....keeping land from being privately leased becasue other can't afford to lease
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Post by MK-M-GOBL on Feb 22, 2012 23:13:31 GMT
;D HB1339 has been taken off the list of potential new laws even after they amended the crap out of it. It seems that someone was smart enough to realize they would be infringing on landowners rights
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